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PCM Power and Ground Circuit Troubleshooting (2013-15)

  1. Engine starting check:

    - 1. Try to start the engine.

    Does the engine start and idle smoothly?

    YES 

    Go to the F-CAN circuit troubleshooting .?

    NO 

    Go to step 2.

  2. Determine possible failure area (+B IG MAIN wire shorted, others):

    - 1. Press the engine start/stop button to select the OFF mode.

    - 2. Check the following fuse.

    Fuse No. A2-4 (50 A)
    Location Under-hood fuse/relay box

    Is the fuse OK?

    YES 

    Repair an open in the +B IG MAIN wire between the No. A2-4 (50 A) fuse in the under-hood fuse/relay box and the keyless access power control unit. If the wire is OK, go to step 3.

    NO 

    Repair a short in the +B IG MAIN wire between the No. A2-4 (50 A) fuse in the under-hood fuse/relay box and the keyless access power control unit. Also replace the No. A2-4 (50 A) fuse.?

  3. Fuse check:

    Check the following fuse.

    Fuse No. A25 (15 A)
    Location Under-hood fuse/relay box

    Is the fuse OK?

    YES 

    Go to step 7.

    NO 

    Go to step 4.

  4. Determine possible failure area (+B IGP line, others):

    - 1. Remove the blown No. A25 (15 A) fuse from the under-hood fuse/relay box.

    - 2. Remove PGM-FI main relay 1 (A) from the under-dash fuse/relay box.

    GHH72785Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    - 3. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition OFF mode
      PGM-FI main relay 1: disconnected
    Test circuit +B IGP
    Test point 1 PGM-FI main relay 1 4P socket No. 1
    Test point 2 Body ground
    Test circuit +B IGP
    Test point 1 PGM-FI main relay 1 4P socket No. 4
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH72786Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Are there continuity?

    YES 

    Go to step 5.

    NO 

    Go to step 6.

  5. Shorted wire check (+B IGP line):

    - 1. Disconnect the following connector.

    Under-dash fuse/relay box connector D (32P)

    - 2. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition OFF mode
      PGM-FI main relay 1: disconnected
      Under-dash fuse/relay box connector D (32P): disconnected
    Test circuit +B IGP
    Test point 1 Under-dash fuse/relay box connector D (32P) No. 9 (BLU)
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH72787Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    Repair a short the +B IGP wire between the No. A25 (15 A) fuse in the under-hood fuse/relay box and the under-dash fuse/relay box. Also replace the No. A25 (15 A) fuse.?

    NO 

    The +B IGP wire is OK. Replace the under-hood fuse/relay box . Also replace the No. A25 (15 A) fuse.?

  6. Part(s) internal circuit check (short in FI MAIN RLY OUT line):

    Disconnect each of the parts or connectors below, one at a time, then check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    • PGM-FI main relay 2
    • PCM connector B (49P)
    • Each injector 2P connector
    • CMP sensor 3P connector
    • CKP sensor 3P connector
    • Electronic throttle control system (ETCS) control relay
    Test condition OFF mode
    Test circuit FI MAIN RLY OUT
    Test point 1 PGM-FI main relay 1 4P socket No. 2
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH72788Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Does continuity go away when one of the above components is disconnected?

    YES 

    Replace the part that made the short to body ground go away when it was disconnected. If the part is the PCM, update the PCM  if it does not have the latest software, or substitute a known-good PCM , then recheck. If the symptom/indication goes away and the PCM was updated, troubleshooting is complete. If the symptom/indication goes away and the PCM was substituted, replace the original PCM . Also replace the No. A25 (15 A) fuse in the under-hood fuse/relay box.?

    NO 

    Do the PGM-FI main relay 1 test . If it is OK, Repair a short in FI MAIN RLY OUT line between each injector, CMP sensor, CKP sensor, ETCS RELAY, PGM-FI main relay 1, 2 and PCM.

  7. Fuse check 2:

    Check the following fuse.

    Fuse No. B4 (15 A)
    Location Under-dash fuse/relay box

    Is the fuse OK?

    YES 

    Go to step 12.

    NO 

    Go to step 8.

  8. Relay check:

    - 1. Remove the blown No. B4 (15 A) fuse from the under-dash fuse/relay box.

    - 2. Remove PGM-FI main relay 2 (A) from the under-dash fuse/relay box.

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    - 3. Test PGM-FI main relay 2.

    Is the relay OK?

    YES 

    PGM-FI main relay 2 is OK. Go to step 9.

    NO 

    Replace PGM-FI main relay 2. Also replace the No. B4 (15 A) fuse in the under-dash fuse/relay box.?

  9. Determine possible failure area (IG1 FUEL PUMP line, others):

    Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition OFF mode
      PGM-FI main relay 2: disconnected
    Test circuit IG1 FUEL PUMP
    Test point 1 PGM-FI main relay 2 4P socket No. 2
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH72790Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    Go to step 10.

    NO 

    Go to step 11.

  10. Shorted wire check (IG1(RUN/CRK)/IG1 FUEL PUMP line):

    - 1. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.

    SCS Short

    - 2. Disconnect the following connector.

    PCM connector B (49P) - Refer to: How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems (2013-15), or How to Troubleshoot the A/T System (2013-15)

    - 3. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition OFF mode
      PGM-FI main relay 2: disconnected
      PCM connector B (49P): disconnected
    Test circuit IG1(RUN/CRK)
    Test point 1 PCM connector B (49P) No. 13 (GRY)
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH72791Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    Repair a short in the IG1(RUN/CRK)/IG1 FUEL PUMP wire between the No. B4 (15 A) fuse in the under-dash fuse/relay box and the PCM (B13), between the No. B4 (15 A) fuse and PGM-FI main relay 2, or between the No. B4 (15 A) fuse and the back up control unit, keyless access control unit, and electric steering lock. Also replace the No. B4 (15 A) fuse.?

    NO 

    The IG1(RUN/CRK)/IG1 FUEL PUMP wire is OK. Replace the No. B4 (15 A) fuse in the under-dash fuse/relay box, and update the PCM  if it does not have the latest software, or substitute a known-good PCM , then recheck. If the symptom/indication goes away and the PCM was updated, troubleshooting is complete. If the symptom/indication goes away and the PCM was substituted, replace the original PCM .?

  11. Shorted wire check (FUEL PUMP RLY OUT line):

    - 1. Remove the access panel from the floor.

    - 2. Disconnect the following connector.

    Fuel tank unit 4P connector

    - 3. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition OFF mode
      PGM-FI main relay 2: disconnected
      Fuel tank unit 4P connector: disconnected
    Test circuit FUEL PUMP RLY OUT
    Test point 1 Fuel tank unit 4P connector No. 1 (PNK)
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH72792Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    Repair a short in the FUEL PUMP RLY OUT wire between the fuel tank unit 4P connector and PGM-FI main relay 2. Also replace the No. B4 (15 A) fuse in the under-dash fuse/relay box.?

    NO 

    The FUEL PUMP RLY OUT wire is OK. Check the fuel pump, and replace it if needed. Also replace the No. B4 (15 A) fuse in the under-dash fuse/relay box.?

  12. Open wire check (IG1(RUN/CRK)/IG1 FUEL PUMP line):

    - 1. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.

    SCS Short

    - 2. Disconnect the following connectors.

    PCM connector B (49P) - Refer to: How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems (2013-15), or How to Troubleshoot the A/T System (2013-15)

    - 3. Press the engine start/stop button to select the ON mode.

    - 4. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition ON mode
      PCM connector B (49P): disconnected
    Test circuit IG1(RUN/CRK)
    Test point 1 PCM connector B (49P) No. 13 (GRY)
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH72793Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there battery voltage?

    YES 

    The IG1(RUN/CRK)/IG1 FUEL PUMP wire is OK. Go to step 13.

    NO 

    Repair an open in the IG1(RUN/CRK)/IG1 FUEL PUMP wire between the No. B4 (15 A) fuse in the under-dash fuse/relay box and the PCM (B13).?

  13. Determine possible failure area (PGM-FI main relay 1 control circuit, others):

    - 1. Press the engine start/stop button to select the OFF mode.

    - 2. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.

    SCS Short

    - 3. Disconnect the following connector.

    PCM connector A (49P) - Refer to: How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems (2013-15), or How to Troubleshoot the A/T System (2013-15)

    - 4. Press the engine start/stop button to select the ON mode.

    - 5. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition ON mode
      PCM connector A (49P): disconnected
      PCM connector B (49P): disconnected
    Test circuit FI MAIN RLY CL-
    Test point 1 PCM connectors A (49P) No. 6 (GRN)
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH72794Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there battery voltage?

    YES 

    Go to step 17.

    NO 

    Go to step 14.

  14. Determine possible failure area (+B IGP line, others):

    - 1. Press the engine start/stop button to select the OFF mode.

    - 2. Remove PGM-FI main relay 1 (A) from the under-dash fuse/relay box.

    GHH72795Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    - 3. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition OFF mode
      PCM connector A (49P): disconnected
      PCM connector B (49P): disconnected
      PGM-FI main relay 1: disconnected
    Test circuit +B IGP
    Test point 1 PGM-FI main relay 1 4P socket No. 4
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH72796Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there battery voltage?

    YES 

    Go to step 16.

    NO 

    Go to step 15.

  15. Open wire check (+B IGP line):

    Disconnect the following connector.

    Under-dash fuse/relay box connector D (32P)

    - 2. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition OFF mode
      PCM connector A (49P): disconnected
      PCM connector B (49P): disconnected
      PGM-FI main relay 1: disconnected
      Under-dash fuse/relay box connector D (32P): disconnected
    Test circuit +B IGP
    Test point 1 Under-dash fuse/relay box connector D (32P) No. 9 (BLU)
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH72797Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there battery voltage?

    YES 

    The +B IGP wire is OK. Replace the under-dash fuse/relay box .?

    NO 

    Repair an open the +B IGP wire between the No. A25 (15A) fuse in the under-hood fuse/relay box and the under-dash fuse/relay box.?

  16. Open wire check (FI MAIN RLY CL- line):

    Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition OFF mode
      PCM connector A (49P): disconnected
      PCM connector B (49P): disconnected
      PGM-FI main relay 1: disconnected
    Test circuit FI MAIN RLY CL-
    Test point 1 PGM-FI main relay 1 4P socket No. 3
    Test point 2 PCM connector A (49P) No. 6 (GRN)
    GHH72798Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    The FI MAIN RLY CL- wire is OK. Test PGM-FI main relay 1 . If the relay is OK, update the PCM  if it does not have the latest software, or substitute a known-good PCM , then recheck. If the symptom/indication goes away and the PCM was updated, troubleshooting is complete. If the symptom/indication goes away and the PCM was substituted, replace the original PCM .?

    NO 

    Repair an open in the FI MAIN RLY CL- wire between the PCM (A6) and PGM-FI main relay 1.?

  17. Determine possible failure area (+B IGP line, others):

    - 1. Press the engine start/stop button to select the OFF mode.

    - 2. Remove PGM-FI main relay 1 (A) from the under-dash fuse/relay box.

    GHH72799Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    - 3. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition OFF mode
      PCM connector A (49P): disconnected
      PCM connector B (49P): disconnected
      PGM-FI main relay 1: disconnected
    Test circuit +B IGP
    Test point 1 PGM-FI main relay 1 4P socket No. 1
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH72800Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there battery voltage?

    YES 

    Go to step 19.

    NO 

    Go to step 18.

  18. Open wire check (+B IGP line):

    Disconnect the following connector.

    Under-dash fuse/relay box connector D (32P)

    - 2. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition OFF mode
      PCM connector A (49P): disconnected
      PCM connector B (49P): disconnected
      PGM-FI main relay 1: disconnected
      Under-dash fuse/relay box connector D: disconnected
    Test circuit +B IGP
    Test point 1 Under-dash fuse/relay box connector D (32P) No. 9 (BLU)
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH72801Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there battery voltage?

    YES 

    The +B IGP wire is OK. Replace the under-dash fuse/relay box .?

    NO 

    Repair an open in the +B IGP wire between the No. A25 (15 A) fuse in the under-hood fuse/relay box and the under-dash fuse/relay box.?

  19. Open wire check (IGP/FI MAIN RLY OUT line):

    Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition OFF mode
      PCM connector A (49P): disconnected
      PCM connector B (49P): disconnected
      PGM-FI main relay 1: disconnected
    Test circuit IGP/FI MAIN RLY OUT
    Test point 1 PGM-FI main relay 1 4P socket No. 2
    Test point 2 PCM connector B (49P) No. 3 (YEL)
    GHH72802Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    The IGP/FI MAIN RLY OUT wire is OK. Go to step 20.

    NO 

    Repair an open in the IGP/FI MAIN RLY OUT wire between the PCM (B3) and PGM-FI main relay 1.?

  20. Relay check:

    Test PGM-FI main relay 1.

    Is PGM-FI main relay 1 OK?

    YES 

    PGM-FI main relay 1 is OK. Go to step 21.

    NO 

    Replace PGM-FI main relay 1.?

  21. Open wire check (PG, LG lines):

    Disconnect the following connector.

    PCM connectors C (49P) - Refer to: How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems (2013-15), or How to Troubleshoot the A/T System (2013-15)

    - 2. Check for continuity between the following test points and body ground individually.

    Test condition OFF mode
      PCM connector A (49P): disconnected
      PCM connector B (49P): disconnected
      PCM connector C (49P): disconnected
      PGM-FI main relay 1: disconnected
    Connector Test circuit Terminal
    PCM connector B (49P) PG2 No. 1 (BLK)
    PG1 No. 11 (BLK)
    LG No. 12 (BRN)
    PCM connector C (49P) PG1 No. 1 (BLK)
    LG No. 12 (BRN)
    GHH72803Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.
    GHH72804Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    The PG and LG wires are OK. Update the PCM  if it does not have the latest software, or substitute a known-good PCM , then recheck. If the symptom/indication goes away and the PCM was updated, troubleshooting is complete. If the symptom/indication goes away and the PCM was substituted, replace the original PCM .?

    NO 

    Repair an open in the wire between the PCM (B1, B11, B12, C1, C12) and G101.?