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Cannot select ON mode with keyless access and with the keyless remote touching the engine start/stop switch (KA/KC model) (2016 2017)

  1. Keyless access system check 1

    -1. Do this procedure 10 times: Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    Does the system change to ON mode?

    YES 

    Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for loose or poor connection.

    NO 

    Go to step 2.

  2. Keyless access system check 2

    -1. Touch the engine start/stop switch with the keyless remote. The buttons on the keyless remote should be facing you.

    -2. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    Does the system change to ON mode?

    YES 

    Go to keyless access system symptom troubleshooting "Cannot select ON mode with keyless access, but can select ON mode with the keyless remote touching the engine start/stop switch" .

    NO 

    Go to step 3.

  3. Keyless access system check 3

    -1. Select KEYLESS ACCESS CONTROL UNIT from the ONE-PUSH START system select menu with the HDS, and enter SELF CHECK.

    One-Push - KEYLESS ACCESS CONTROL UNIT - SELF CHECK

    Does the system communicate with the HDS?

    YES 

    Go to step 4.

    NO 

    Go to step 10.

  4. Keyless access system check 4

    -1. Reboot the HDS.

    -2. Select model on the HDS screen.

    -3. When prompted by the HDS, select YES when asked if the vehicle has keyless access system, then press and hold the engine start/stop button for at least 2 minutes. This selects the forced ON mode.

    Does the system change to forced ON mode?

    YES 

    Go to step 5.

    NO 

    Go to step 15.

  5. PCU DTC check

    -1. Check for PCU DTCs with the HDS.

    DTC Description DTC
       

    Are any DTCs indicated?

    YES 

    Troubleshoot the PCU DTCs.

    NO 

    Go to step 6.

  6. Keyless access DTC check

    -1. Check for keyless access/TPMS control unit DTCs with the HDS.

    DTC Description DTC
       

    Are any DTCs indicated?

    YES 

    Troubleshoot the keyless access/TPMS control unit DTCs.

    NO 

    Go to step 7.

  7. Backup DTC check

    -1. Check for backup control unit DTCs with the HDS.

    DTC Description DTC
       

    Are any DTCs indicated?

    YES 

    Troubleshoot the backup control unit DTCs.

    NO 

    Go to step 8.

  8. Keyless access system check 5

    -1. Select KEYLESS TRANSMITTER from the BODY ELECTRICAL system select menu with the HDS, then select INSPECTION, then KEYLESS CHECK.

    -2. Do the KEYLESS CHECK with the HDS using the all keyless remotes.

    Is KEYLESS ENTRY TRANSMITTER CODE IS RECEIVED indicated?

    YES 

    Go to step 9.

    NO 

    Do the keyless access remote registration , and recheck.

  9. Keyless access system check 6

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    -2. Remove all the keyless remotes from inside the vehicle. Place the keyless remotes more than 5.0 ft (1.5 m) away from the vehicle.

    -3. Reboot the HDS without pressing the engine start/stop button.

    -4. Do the registration of the keyless access/TPMS control unit according to the instructions on the HDS screen.

    -5. Select REGISTRATION from the ONE-PUSH START system select menu with the HDS, then select REPLACE PCU/BACKUP CONTROL/KEYLESS ACCESS CONTROL UNIT.

    -6. Take the keyless remote into the vehicle, and clear the PCU DTCs with the HDS.

    -7. Do this procedure 10 times: Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    Does the system change to ON mode?

    YES 

    Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for loose or poor connection.

    NO 

    Replace the original keyless access/TPMS control unit .

  10. L-line check

    -1. Do the DLC circuit troubleshooting .

    Is L-line OK?

    YES 

    Go to step 11.

    NO 

    Repair an L-line wire circuit.

  11. Engine start/stop switch operation check

    -1. Do the engine start/stop switch test .

    Is the engine start/stop switch OK?

    YES 

    Go to step 12.

    NO 

    Replace the engine start/stop switch .

  12. Open wire check (SS1 (+), SS2 (-) lines)

    -1. Disconnect the following connectors.

    Engine start/stop switch 10P connector
    Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector B (36P)

    -2. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2 respectively.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
    Engine start/stop switch 10P connector: disconnected
    Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector B (36P): disconnected
    Test circuit SS1 (+)
    Test point 1 Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector B (36P) No. 10 (GRY)
    Test point 2 Engine start/stop switch 10P connector No. 4 (GRY)
    Test circuit SS2 (-)
    Test point 1 Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector B (36P) No. 11 (BLU)
    Test point 2 Engine start/stop switch 10P connector No. 1 (BLU)
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    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    The SS1 (+) and SS2 (-) wires are OK. Go to step 13.

    NO 

    Repair an open or high resistance in the wire.

  13. Open wire check (+B SMART line)

    -1. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
    Engine start/stop switch 10P connector: disconnected
    Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector B (36P): disconnected
    Test circuit +B SMART
    Test point 1 Engine start/stop switch 10P connector No. 5 (BLU)
    Test point 2 Body ground
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    Is there battery voltage?

    YES 

    The +B SMART wire is OK. Go to step 14.

    NO 

    Repair an open or high resistance in the wire. If wire is OK, check the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box No. D30 (10 A) fuse circuit.

  14. Open wire check (LG line)

    -1. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
    Engine start/stop switch 10P connector: disconnected
    Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector B (36P): disconnected
    Test circuit LG
    Test point 1 Engine start/stop switch 10P connector No. 2 (BLK)
    Test point 2 Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector B (36P) No. 25 (BLK)
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    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    The LG wire is OK. Go to step 15.

    NO 

    Repair an open or high resistance in the wire.

  15. PCU DTC check

    -1. Check for PCU DTCs with the HDS.

    DTC Description DTC
       

    Are any DTCs indicated?

    YES 

    Troubleshoot the PCU DTCs.

    NO 

    Go to step 16.

  16. Open wire check (+B SMART, +B BACK UP lines)

    -1. Disconnect the following connectors.

    Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector A (32P)

    -2. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2 individually.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
    Engine start/stop switch 10P connector: disconnected
    Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector A (32P): disconnected
    Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector B (36P): disconnected
    Test circuit +B SMART
    Test point 1 Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector A (32P) No. 1 (BLU)
    Test point 2 Body ground
    Test circuit +B BACK UP
    Test point 1 Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector B (36P) No. 18 (PNK)
    Test point 2 Body ground
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    Is there battery voltage?

    YES 

    The +B SMART and +B BACK UP wires are OK. Go to step 17.

    NO 

    Repair an open or high resistance in the wire.

  17. Open wire check (GND line)

    -1. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2 individually.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
    Engine start/stop switch 10P connector: disconnected
    Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector A (32P): disconnected
    Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector B (36P): disconnected
    Test circuit GND
    Test point 1 Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector A (32P) No. 17 (BRN)
    Test point 2 Body ground
    Test circuit GND
    Test point 1 Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector B (36P) No. 36 (BRN)
    Test point 2 Body ground
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    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    Replace the original keyless access/TPMS control unit .

    NO 

    Repair an open or high resistance in the ground wire or poor ground (G502).