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DTC Advanced Diagnostics: P0717

DTC P0717  : Torque Converter Turbine Speed Sensor Circuit No Signal

General Description 

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The torque converter turbine speed sensor is attached to the outside of the transmission housing. The torque converter turbine speed sensor detects the number of revolutions of the gear on the input shaft and sends a pulsing signal to the transmission control module (TCM). The TCM converts the pulses to torque converter turbine speed. If no pulses occur with the input shaft rotating, the TCM detects a malfunction that may be caused by an open, an intermittent open, or a short to ground. Based on the correlation between the torque converter turbine speed sensor and the CVT drive pulley speed sensor, the TCM detects a malfunction and stores a DTC.

Monitor Execution, Sequence, Duration, DTC Type 

Execution Continuous
Sequence None
Duration 10 seconds or more
DTC Type One drive cycle, MIL on, Shift position indicator blinks

Enable Conditions 

Condition Minimum Maximum
Engine speed [Engine Speed] 550 rpm -
Drive pulley speed [Input Shaft (Drive Pulley) Speed rpm] 350 rpm -
12 volt battery voltage [Battery Voltage] 10.0 V -
Shift position/mode D, S
Other Not when the shift position is being shifted
No electrical noise in the torque converter turbine speed sensor output circuit

[ ]: HDS Parameter

Malfunction Threshold 

The rotation speed [Torque Converter Turbine Speed] measured by the torque converter turbine speed sensor is 60 rpm or less for at least 10 seconds when the rotation speed [Input Shaft (Drive Pulley) Speed rpm] measured by the CVT drive pulley speed sensor is 350 rpm or more.

Possible Cause 

NOTE:

The causes shown may not be a complete list of all potential problems, and it is possible that there may be other causes.

  • Torque converter turbine speed sensor NT line open (includes a loose or disconnected connector)
  • Torque converter turbine speed sensor VCC2 line open (includes a loose or disconnected connector)
  • Torque converter turbine speed sensor SG2 line open (includes a loose or disconnected connector)
  • Torque converter turbine speed sensor NT line short to ground
  • Torque converter turbine speed sensor failure
  • TCM internal circuit failure

Confirmation Procedure 

Operating Condition 

Diagnosis Details 

Conditions for setting the DTC 

When a malfunction is detected, the MIL comes on, the shift position indicator blinks, and a Pending DTC, a Confirmed DTC, and the freeze data are stored in the TCM memory.

Conditions for clearing the DTC 

The shift position indicator comes off by turning the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode. The MIL is cleared if the malfunction does not return in three consecutive trips in which the diagnostic runs. The MIL, the Pending DTC, the Confirmed DTC, and the freeze data can be cleared with the scan tool clear command.