Repeat P228C Setting On High Feature V6 Engines While Using E85 Fuel (PIP5385C)
Publication date: 2017-01-31Reference number: PIP5385C
Supersedes refnos: PIP5385, PIP5385A, PIP5385B
REPEAT P228C SETTING ON HIGH FEATURE V6 ENGINES WHILE USING E85 FUEL
TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN
SERVICE INFORMATION
| Brand: | Model: | Model Year: | VIN: | Engine: | Transmission: | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| from | to | from | to | ||||
| Buick | LaCrosse | 2011-2016 | ALL | ALL | ALL | ALL | |
| Cadillac | ATS Sedan | 2013 | ALL | ALL | ALL | ALL | |
| Cadillac | SRX | 2011-2016 | ALL | ALL | ALL | ALL | |
| Chevrolet | Caprice PPV | 2012-2015 | ALL | ALL | ALL | ALL | |
| Chevrolet | Captiva Sport (Fleet Only) | 2013-2015 | ALL | ALL | ALL | ALL | |
| Chevrolet | Equinox | 2011-2017 | ALL | ALL | ALL | ALL | |
| Chevrolet | Impala Limited ( Including Fleet and PPV) | 2012-2017 | ALL | ALL | ALL | ALL | |
| Chevrolet | Impala | 2014-2017 | ALL | ALL | ALL | ALL | |
| GMC | Terrain | 2011-2017 | ALL | ALL | ALL | ALL | |
Equipped with HFV6 engine RPO, LF1, LFW, or LFX
And RPO FHS: Vehicle Fuel E85 (85% ethanol max.)
Supersession Statement
This PI was superseded to add model years, Please discard PIP5385B.
The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
CONDITION/CONCERN
You may have a customer come in with an SES light on or reduced engine power message came on and was cleared after cycling the key
If you find a P228C set as current or history, and a prior history of High Pressure Fuel Pump replacement, and the customer has been using E85 fuel,
This PI would apply.
Starting with Model Year 2012 vehicles, FlexFuel vehicles may also be identified by the following Vehicle Fuel RPO Codes:
- FHO: Vehicle Fuel E10 (10% ethanol or less)
- FHS: Vehicle Fuel E85 (85% ethanol max.)
RECOMMENDATION/INSTRUCTIONS
At this time there is "No Verified Repair" for this concern.
If the code is current then follow SI direction for repairing the concern.
If the code is set in history and there are no current drivability concerns, proceed with the following.
- Take a large fuel sample and let it sit for a couple of hours looking for contamination.
- Ensure actual and desired fuel pressures in the scan tool are very close to the same.
- If contamination is found in the tank then completely flush the fuel system and add e-10 fuel.
Also you may need to check the strainer in the fuel tank for concerns of build up or blockage
NOTE:Contamination in the fuel is not warrantable
- Remove the high pressure fuel pump inlet line from both ends.
a) Using regulated air down to about 60 psi or lower, blow through the inlet (vehicle) side of this pipe / hose.
b) Check for restriction in the check valve built into this hose.
c) If restricted then replace the pipe / hose assembly, run a tank of premium or top tier E10 fuel through the vehicle and reevaluate the concern.
d) If no restriction present continue with PI.
NOTE:Please box the inlet line with the HPFP when sending pump back or retain line so it can be requested back if replaced without pump.
- Replace the high pressure fuel pump and all related lines per SI instructions.
- Run a tank of premium or top tier E10 fuel through the system to clean all components.
- Reevaluate the vehicle
After vehicle repair is complete, Please have the customer or fleet manager fill out the survey below.
Please copy and print.
Filling out the questionnaire will not affect your vehicle warranty.GM is looking for additional information to help survey fuel usage and determine the potential causes of the problem. Answer as many questions as you can. Please also fill-out Appendix A if this involves a fleet or vehicles with dedicated fueling sources. Thank you very much for your assistance.
| Date | |
|---|---|
| Customer name | |
| Customer telephone number: | |
| e-mail address: | |
| VIN (s) | |
| Describe the problem your vehicle(s) was having. | |
| Examples: | |
| Hard starting/no start | |
| Rough idle | |
| Sluggishness (no power) | |
| Stalling | |
| Hesitation | |
| Check engine light came on | |
| Has your vehicle had this problem before? (please circle) | Yes No |
| Is your vehicle driven daily? (please circle) | Yes No |
| How many miles is your vehicle driven daily? | |
| What percentage of the miles are driven on the highway? | |
| Describe vehicle usage | |
| (I.e. Personal commute, recreational, commercial, heavy-duty/heavy payloads, patrol, etc.) | |
| What grade of fuel is normally purchased for your vehicle? (please circle) | |
| Regular (87 octane) | |
| Mid-grade (89 octane) | |
| Premium (91 octane or higher) | |
| E85 | |
| Other Intermediate Ethanol Blends | |
| Diesel fuel | |
| Bio-diesel fuel (specify grade) | |
| Other types of fuel (please list) | |
| Rank the 3 most frequently used fuel brands, with 1 being the most frequently used and 3 being the least used. | |
| _____Amoco _____Arco _____BP _____Chevron _____Circle K _____Citgo _____Clark _____Coastal _____Conoco _____Exxon _____Hess _____Giant _____Marathon _____Mobil _____Phillips 66 _____Shell _____Speedway _____Sunoco _____Super America _____Texaco _____Union 76 _____Wawa _____Others |
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| Where did you buy the fuel when you started noticing issues? | |
| Did you notice any abnormal sounds coming from the vehicle? If yes, please describe. | Yes No |
| Does your drive include significant elevation changes? | Yes No |
| Do you generally purchase the same brand of fuel? (please circle) | |
| If yes, what brand is it? | Yes No |
| Brand name: | |
| If you generally purchase the same brand of fuel, is it purchased at the same location? (please circle) | |
| If yes, what is the location? | Yes No |
| Location: | |
| Please feel free to provide other relevant information and comments | |
Thank you very much for taking the time to fill out this questionnaire!
Please return or have the dealership return the completed questionnaire to:
Fax: 248-676-7220
Jay Cummings, GM Powertrain Fuels and Lubricants
Jill.cummings@gm.com
Authored and revised by: J.M. Cummings
Rev. March 2014
APPENDIX A
TO BE COMPLETED BY FLEET OR VEHICLES WITH DEDICATED FUELING SOURCES
What is the total number of vehicles in your fleet?
What are the fleet vehicle applications (example: goods transport, patrol, etc.)?
Description of vehicles in the fleet. (Brands, Models, Model Years)
Who are the dedicated fuel supplier(s) and where do they purchase their fuel from?
Are they accredited?
How many gallons purchased at a time and how many deliveries a week?
How long have you been using this fuel supplier?
What has been the experience with them in terms of quality?
What are the most commonly used type or blend of fuels in your fleet?
How is the fuel stored and dispensed?
Is there a maintenance plan for the storage tanks?
Regular cleaning or flushing?
Have the storage and dispensing systems been certified for the type of fuel used?
What are the filters in place for the storage and dispensing system?
How are the filters sized?
How many microns?
Is there a regular maintenance and replacement plan for the filters and the dispensing system?
Is there a bypass valve for the filters if it becomes clogged?
Does your organization require that all fuels used in your fleet have to meet ASTM specifications?
Have you changed your fuel supplier(s) in the past?
If so, why?
Does your fuel usage change in winter?
What type of quality monitoring program do you have to assure fuel quality?
- Suppliers certificate of analysis?
- Regular fuel analysis?
- Occasional fuel analysis?
- Analyzing fuel when faced with operational/storage issues?
- No fuel monitoring program?
In your experience with monitoring fuel quality have you received fuel not meeting specifications?
If yes, how many times?
If your organization received out-of-spec or low quality fuel, what corrective measures were adopted?
Please specify.
Do you use any additives in your fuel?
If yes, please specify
Any other comments about your fleet / vehicles?
Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.